Nostradamus: 2012

[Ocean_Soul]

Failed prophecies:
1. About 30 CE: The Christian Scriptures (New Testament), when interpreted literally, appear to record many predictions by Jeshua of Nazareth (Jesus Christ) that God's Kingdom would arrive within a very short period, or was actually in the process of arriving. For example, Jesus is recorded as saying in Matthew 16:28: "...there shall be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." In Matthew 24:34, Yeshua is recorded as saying: "...This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Since the life expectancy in those days was little over 30 years, Jesus appears to have predicted his second coming sometime during the 1st century CE. It didn't happen.

2. About 60 CE: Interpreting the Epistles of Paul of Tarsus literally, his writings seem to imply that Jesus would return and usher in a rapture during the lifetime of persons who were living in the middle of the 1st century.

3. About 90 CE: Saint Clement 1 predicted that the world end would occur at any moment.

4. 2nd Century CE: Prophets and Prophetesses of the Montanist movement predicted that Jesus would return sometime during their lifetime and establish the New Jerusalem in the city of Pepuza in Asia Minor.

5. 365 CE: A man by the name of Hilary of Poitiers, announced that the end would happen that year. It didn't.

6. 375 to 400 CE: Saint Martin of Tours, a student of Hilary, was convinced that the end would happen sometime before 400 CE.

7. 500 CE: This was the first year-with-a-nice-round-number-panic. The antipope Hippolytus and an earlier Christian academic Sextus Julius Africanus had predicted Armageddon at about this year.

8. 968 CE: An eclipse was interpreted as a prelude to the end of the world by the army of the German emperor Otto III.

9. 992: Good Friday coincided with the Feast of the Annunciation; this had long been believed to be the event that would bring forth the Antichrist, and thus the end-times events foretold in the book of Revelation. Records from Germany report that a new sun rose in the north and that as many as 3 suns and 3 moons were fighting. There does not appear to be independent verification of this remarkable event.

10. 1000-JAN-1: Many Christians in Europe had predicted the end of the world on this date. As the date approached, Christian armies waged war against some of the Pagan countries in Northern Europe. The motivation was to convert them all to Christianity, by force if necessary, before Christ returned in the year 1000. Meanwhile, some Christians had given their possessions to the Church in anticipation of the end. Fortunately, the level of education was so low that many citizens were unaware of the year. They did not know enough to be afraid. Otherwise, the panic might have been far worse than it was. Unfortunately, when Jesus did not appear, the church did not return the gifts. Serious criticism of the Church followed. The Church reacted by exterminating some heretics. Agitation settled down quickly, as it later did in the year 2000.

11. 1000-MAY: The body of Charlemagne was disinterred on Pentecost. A legend had arisen that an emperor would rise from his sleep to fight the Antichrist.

12. 1005-1006: A terrible famine throughout Europe was seen as a sign of the nearness of the end.

13. 1033: Some believed this to be the 1000th anniversary of the death and resurrection of Jesus. His second coming was anticipated. Jesus' actual date of execution is unknown, but is believed to be in the range of 27 to 33 CE.

14. 1147: Gerard of Poehlde decided that the millennium had actually started in 306 CE during Constantine's reign. Thus, the world end was expected in 1306 CE.

15. 1179: John of Toledo predicted the end of the world during 1186. This estimate was based on the alignment of many planets.

16. 1205: Joachim of Fiore predicted in 1190 that the Antichrist was already in the world, and that King Richard of England would defeat him. The Millennium would then begin, sometime before 1205.

17. 1284: Pope Innocent III computed this date by adding 666 years onto the date the Islam was founded.

18. 1346 and later: The black plague spread across Europe, killing one third of the population. This was seen as the prelude to an immediate end of the world. Unfortunately, the Christians had previously killed a many of the cats, fearing that they might be familiars of Witches. The fewer the cats, the more the rats. It was the rat fleas that spread the black plague.

19. 1496: This was approximately 1500 years after the birth of Jesus. Some mystics in the 15th century predicted that the millennium would begin during this year.

20. 1524: Many astrologers predicted the imminent end of the world due to a world wide flood. They obviously had not read the Genesis story of the rainbow.

21. 1533: Melchior Hoffman predicted that Jesus' return would happen a millennium and a half after the nominal date of his execution, in 1533. The New Jerusalem was expected to be established in Strasbourg, Germany. He was arrested and died in a Strasbourg jail.

22. 1669: The Old Believers in Russia believed that the end of the world would occur in this year. 20 thousand burned themselves to death between 1669 and 1690 to protect themselves from the Antichrist.

23. 1689: Benjamin Keach, a 17th century Baptist, predicted the end of the world for this year.

24. 1736: British theologian and mathematician William Whitson predicted a great flood similar to Noah's for OCT-13 of this year.

25. 1792: This was the date of the end of the world calculated by some believers in the Shaker movement.

26. 1794: Charles Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism, thought Doomsday would be in this year.

27. 1830: Margaret McDonald, a Christian prophetess, predicted that Robert Owen would be the Antichrist. Owen helped found New Harmony, IN.

28. 1832?: Joseph Smith (1805-1844) was the founder of the Church of Christ, which became the Restorationist movement after many schisms. It now includes The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints -- a.k.a. the Mormons, and about a hundred other denominations and sects. He heard a voice while praying. He wrote, in Doctrines and Covenants section 130:

14: "I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following:"

15: "Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter."

16: "I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face."

17: "I believe the coming of the Son of Man will not be any sooner than that time." 14
The year in which this event occurred is not recorded. However, one commentator suggested 1832 or earlier. 16 Smith is later recorded as having said:
"I prophesy in the name of the Lord God, and let it be written--the Son of Man will not come in the clouds of heaven till I am eighty-five years old." 17

Smith would have reached the age of 85 during 1890. Unfortunately, by that year, Smith had been dead for almost a half century, having been assassinated by a mob. Note that his prophecy is ambiguous. It can be interpreted that:

Jesus would return during 1890 (which did not materialize) or that
1890 would pass without Jesus' return (which did come to pass).

Some anti-Mormon sources quote only verses 14 and 15, and draw the former conclusion -- that Smith's prophecy failed.


29. 1843-MAR-21: William Miller, founder of the Millerite movement, predicted that Jesus would come on this date. A very large number of Christians accepted his prophecy.

30. 1844-OCT-22: When Jesus did not return, Miller predicted this new date. In an event which is now called "The Great Disappointment," many Christians sold their property and possessions, quit their jobs and prepared themselves for the second coming. Nothing happened; the day came and went without incident.

31. 1850: Ellen White, founder of the Seven Day Adventists movement, made many predictions of the timing of the end of the world. All failed. On 1850-JUN-27 she prophesized that only a few months remained before the end. She wrote: "My accompanying angel said, 'Time is almost finished. Get ready, get ready, get ready.' ...now time is almost finished...and what we have been years learning, they will have to learn in a few months." 10

32. 1856 or later: At Ellen White's last prediction, she said that she was shown in a vision the fate of believers who attended the 1856 SDA conference. She wrote "I was shown the company present at the Conference. Said the angel: 'Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus." 11 That is, some of the attendees would die of normal diseases; some would die from plagues at the last days, others would still be alive when Jesus came. "By the early 1900s all those who attended the conference had passed away, leaving the Church with the dilemma of trying to figure out how to explain away such a prominent prophetic failure." 12

33. 1891: Mother Shipton, a 16th century mystic predicted the end of the world: "...The world to an end shall come; in eighteen hundred and eighty-one."

34. 1891 or before: On 1835-FEB-14, Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon church, attended a meeting of church leaders. He said that the meeting had been called because God had commanded it. He announced that Jesus would return within 56 years -- i.e. before 1891-FEB-15. (History of the Church 2:182)

35. 1914 was one of the more important estimates of the start of the war of Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society). They based their prophecy of 1914 from prophecy in the book of Daniel, Chapter 4. The writings referred to "seven times". The WTS interpreted each "time" as equal to 360 days, giving a total of 2520 days. This was further interpreted as representing 2520 years, measured from the starting date of 607 BCE. This gave 1914 as the target date. When 1914 passed, they changed their prediction; 1914 became the year that Jesus invisibly began his rule.

36. 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994, etc. were other dates that the Watchtower Society (WTS) or its members predicted. Since late in the 19th century, they had taught that the "battle of the Great Day of God Almighty" (Armageddon) would happen in 1914 CE. It didn't.
The next major estimate was 1925. Watchtower magazine predicted: "The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year." 6
The Watchtower Society selected 1975 as its next main prediction. This was based on the estimate "according to reliable Bible chronology Adam was created in the year 4026 BCE, likely in the autumn of the year, at the end of the sixth day of creation." 8 They believed that the year 1975 a promising date for the end of the world, as it was the 6,000th anniversary of Adam's creation. Exactly 1,000 years was to pass for each day of the creation week. This prophecy also failed.
The current estimate is that the end of the world as we know it will happen precisely 6000 years after the creation of Eve. 9 There is no way of knowing when this happened.


37. 1919: Meteorologist Albert Porta predicted that the conjunction of 6 planets would generate a magnetic current that would cause the sun to explode and engulf the earth on DEC-17.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm

[nichts Jungen]

haha joj koliko ima xĐ nema veze hh dali je istina ili ne meni je film pre'ak pa sam zato i stavio na forum da može još neko pogledat ako hoće ;-)

[Igor Pintarić]

Ma glupost....imam ja film suplja...evo vam jedan ulomak sa weba (Astrobobo)

U mnogim medijima željnim senzacionalističkih članaka (hm..ima li nekih koji nisu takvi?) pojavila se vijest o “kraju svijeta” koji bi se trebao dogoditi 2012. godine. Spominje se kalendar Maja i poravnavanje Sunčevog sustava sa ravninom galaktike. Kao što je vidljivo iz raznih naslova, autori tih tekstova se zapravo ne mogu odlučiti za konkretan datum. Negdje je 20.12., negdje 21.12., a negdje 12.12.! Nažalost po senzacionaliste, kalendar Maja ne završava niti na jedan od ovih datuma, već 21.12. započinje trinaesti b’ak’tun, ciklus od 144.000 dana (395 godina).

Ravnina Sunčevog sustava i galaktike je još jedna žešća glupost. Srećom, autori tekstova očito ne daju preveliku važnost tom smaku svijeta. Da je tako, malo bi bolje proučili stvari o kojima pišu, a ne razumiju ih. Jer, ovako je i astronomu početniku vrlo jednostavno vidjeti kolika je to glupost. Naime, da dođe do poravnavanja ravnine Sunčevog sustava i naše galaksije, Mliječnog puta to bi bilo vrlo vidljivo na nebu. Ravnina Sunčevog sustava je, naime, ekliptika. Po ekliptici se (znaju to i astrolozi ) vrte planeti. Da se te dvije ravnine poklope, značilo bi da planete možemo vidjeti na nebu kako plove unutar Mliječnog puta! Svatko tko na nebu može prepoznati Mliječni put i poneki planet moći će potvrditi da se ekliptika nije baš previše naginjala u zadnje vrijeme, i da planeti znaju otići prilično daleko od Mliječnog puta. A možete pitati i stare Maje

Zapravo se radi o tome da će na zimski solsticij 2012. Sunce biti poravnato sa središtem naše galaksije (edit: to se zapravo već dogodilo, 1998. godine – pogledati link u komentaru. Hvala Rogati!). To je, kao nešto strašno. Prekinut će se dotok energije središta galaksije. Stvarno, evo upravo dok ovo pišem, osjećam kako energije iz središta galaksije prolazi mojim prstima koji lupkaju po tipkovnici (a u trenutku kad mi je mačak skočio u krilo i prekinuo taj dotok, skoro sam napisao “tastaturi”). Dakle, tih desetak minuta 2012., vjerujte, neće stvoriti nikakav problem. Veći problem stvaraju nadriznanstvenici koji se svim silama trude izmisliti nove smakove svijeta, još od kad su kometi, pomrčine Sunca i Mjeseca izgubili kredibilitet pokazivača nadolazećeg zla.

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http://www.astrobobo.net/?p=53

[Admir]

nostradamus=glupost

[Sarajka]

A jeste dosadni sa tim smakom svijeta, k´o da ga prizivate. Neki dan mi se drugarica javila na chatu panicno govoreci kako se boji smaka svijeta kog svi predvidjaju 2012. I tako se ona meni jadala i jadala i jadala kako je protracila cijeli zivot u skoli (inace grupa na fb ali ne htjedoh da ju prekinem) i td... I nakon dobrih pola sata jedva smirih curu :-/. Kad bi bio smak svijeta svaki put kad ga najave desio bi se bar pet puta u toku ovog mog jos malo pa sesnaestogodisnjeg zivota.

A sto se tice filmica gledala sam ga, vrtio se par puta na TV-u. Ma Nostradamus, pa mogu i ja napisati stihove koje ce ljudi za 5000 godina citati, i naravno naci ce bar neku slicnost sa nekim dogadjajima (evo npr "Pet vrabaca ce poletjeti u nebo"- mozes shvatiti kako god hoces, svoje misljenje ces smatrati tacnim). Samo treba dovoljno dugo cekati. Nesto kao dobitak u kasinu (na ruletu) stavis cip na jedan broj i nakon odredjenog vremena (meze biti dan, moze biti godina) doci ce i tvoj broj :-/.

[mk*orce*ve]

(13-01-2010 05:24 AM)Admir Napisao/la:  nostradamus=glupost

Hah, zamisli ti TO, Nostradamus je glupost koja zivi puno vise posle njegova smrt, ma koja frka .

[xkokicax]

Haha j*ebe mi se

[Admir]

ja vjerujem u nostradamusa...hahaha...cuj nostradamus...ccc...plac..
gledo sam dosta o tome i ono je cisto glupost..

[Ema]

Ne vjerujem u smak svijeta, i jedva čekam tu 2012.
Što se tiče Nostradamusa, comme ci comme ça.
Mišljenja sam da je bio jako dobar poznavalac astrologije, a sada što se tiče predviđanja, to je malo diskutabilno.
Ja inače vjerujem u prirodu, pa tako i u planete i zvijezde koje nas okružuju, i mislim da tamo trebamo tražiti odgovore. Svi smo mi dio samo jednog velikog "procesa" u prirodi. Ali dobro, to nije tema, pa ću se na ovome i zaustaviti

[Igor Pintarić]

ma...prvo je proreko 1999 pa se sad pomjerilo jer ne postoji 13.13.2013 hahaha pa nesto zezaju... a keyla sta ti mislis o ovoj soluciji...pogodi na crni meteor velicine BiH (letaju oko zemlje stalno a nemogu ih astronauti vidjet jer su crni i utapaju se u prostoru) ogromna explozija, na Zemlji se podigbne ogromni gusti oblak dima kroz koji svijetlost ne prolazi, sve se zaledi, nakon 12 godina prode svijetlost i zemlja se pocne naglo zagrijavati i na kraju bi postala slicna Veneri....mada...bilo je proreceno milion puta do sad pa nevjerujem